个人对gentoo的一点想法

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Re: 个人对gentoo的一点想法

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帖子 marsteel » 2008-04-22 9:34

cai_jc 写了:不带偏见地说:给你一个win的源码盘,再给你一个win的安装盘。你会用哪个?你会费上好几天时间去编译那个源码盘,然后获得一个比我快10%的win吗?如果你是win专家,你的专业就是这个,那我可以理解;但我不是。我的主要目的是使用linux,把它当作一个操作系统来使用,所以没必要那么做。而且我相信所谓编译gentoo也只是配置些config文件和makefile参数,回答系统的一些问题(你的系统是怎样的,装哪个不装哪个),然后就是漫长的等待!这又能如何呢?会学到多少linux的精髓?为什么不能先装个编译好的发行版,然后去下载源码看得爽?
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帖子 zhong » 2008-04-22 10:13

gentoo其实是给一些非常空闭的或编译狂人用的发行版..自己编译出来心理也会好一点(就是心理作用)

其实我想知道.编译完gentoo能学到什么东西?

突然会编程了? 还是能做"黑客"了

最多不就是能学到点Linux系统构建和源代码编译知识.

说能学到东西的朋友..能否告诉我.你编译完一个gentoo你学到了什么.
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帖子 ofewiofewo » 2008-04-22 11:10

zhong 写了:说能学到东西的朋友..能否告诉我.你编译完一个gentoo你学到了什么.
外科手术般精确定制 8)

抄几个基本概念:ebuild文件是bash脚本,portage是用python写的,安装软件是使用ebuild脚本自动完成,从未理会过什么编译参数。多个版本软件可以和平共存,管理多个版本软件也很方便。简单升级就是换个profile,就多出很多新版软件和新的配置。

即使没用过gentoo,也不要拿错误的概念来误导其他人。要学Linux系统构建和源代码编译知识,请上lfs。
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帖子 zengdesheng » 2008-04-26 20:36

lailue 写了:我虽然不使用Gentoo,但是一直也对他感兴趣。

他的理念是一类人需求的代表。

说不定那天闲着无聊就要试一把Gentoo。

想做黑客的估计Gentoo、LFS都很有吸引力。
呵呵,说得不错.
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帖子 aaazjz » 2008-04-26 20:52

zengdesheng 写了:
lailue 写了:我虽然不使用Gentoo,但是一直也对他感兴趣。

他的理念是一类人需求的代表。

说不定那天闲着无聊就要试一把Gentoo。

想做黑客的估计Gentoo、LFS都很有吸引力。
呵呵,说得不错.
Linus Torvalds 肯定用gentoo吧 ,哦,不是,好像用fedora 9,这小子怎么这么不配合呢……
稳定是硬道理,不夸张的说,现在f9都比 ubuntu 8.04稳定,当然是我用的感受……其它人勿就此发表言论
gentoo稳定,我笑了,连开发都不稳定……
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帖子 syrano » 2008-04-26 21:53

aaazjz 写了:
zengdesheng 写了:
lailue 写了:我虽然不使用Gentoo,但是一直也对他感兴趣。

他的理念是一类人需求的代表。

说不定那天闲着无聊就要试一把Gentoo。

想做黑客的估计Gentoo、LFS都很有吸引力。
呵呵,说得不错.
Linus Torvalds 肯定用gentoo吧 ,哦,不是,好像用fedora 9,这小子怎么这么不配合呢……
稳定是硬道理,不夸张的说,现在f9都比 ubuntu 8.04稳定,当然是我用的感受……其它人勿就此发表言论
gentoo稳定,我笑了,连开发都不稳定……
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#22

帖子 sheep204 » 2008-04-28 10:54

楼主请先学会编译内核再来评论Gentoo
Gentoo,让菜鸟闪开。
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帖子 percy » 2008-05-02 15:08

每个人的想法都不一样,你觉得哪种好就用哪种,我现在感觉gentoo很不错,很稳定,很自由,谢谢
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帖子 laborer » 2008-05-02 15:40

不会自己写ebuild的话用gentoo就没什么意义。gentoo既不适合做桌面系统也不适合做服务器,做开发平台到还行。
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帖子 cvgmt » 2008-07-10 21:58

感觉就像练武,练到 Fedora 是第一重,因为大部分都不用自己安装;练到 Ubuntu 是第二重,因为有一半的软件都要自己配置安装,练到 Gentoo 估计是第三重,都要自己配置安装,现在用的是 Ubuntu,因此向往第三重的 Gentoo。
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Re: 个人对gentoo的一点想法

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帖子 kimux » 2008-07-11 6:12

cai_jc 写了:不带偏见地说:给你一个win的源码盘,再给你一个win的安装盘。你会用哪个?你会费上好几天时间去编译那个源码盘,然后获得一个比我快10%的win吗?如果你是win专家,你的专业就是这个,那我可以理解;但我不是。我的主要目的是使用linux,把它当作一个操作系统来使用,所以没必要那么做。而且我相信所谓编译gentoo也只是配置些config文件和makefile参数,回答系统的一些问题(你的系统是怎样的,装哪个不装哪个),然后就是漫长的等待!这又能如何呢?会学到多少linux的精髓?为什么不能先装个编译好的发行版,然后去下载源码看得爽?

不带偏见地说:用哪个发行版是个人的自由。。。 :D
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#27

帖子 HuntXu » 2008-07-11 8:48

我不喜欢那个portage...所以我选择LFS和arch... :D
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帖子 carbont » 2008-07-11 8:58

LZ的问题好像就是windows和Linux的对立了……
ubuntu和gentoo对立起来还真是没有什么必要……
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帖子 bjsm » 2008-07-13 22:29

cvgmt 写了:感觉就像练武,练到 Fedora 是第一重,因为大部分都不用自己安装;练到 Ubuntu 是第二重,因为有一半的软件都要自己配置安装,练到 Gentoo 估计是第三重,都要自己配置安装,现在用的是 Ubuntu,因此向往第三重的 Gentoo。
我已经从GENTOO觉悟了,回到了ARCH。主要是机器破,更主要是没时间。
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帖子 kofshower » 2008-07-16 23:02

Every user has work they need to do. The goal of Gentoo is to design tools and systems that allow a user to do that work as pleasantly and efficiently as possible, as they see fit. Our tools should be a joy to use, and should help the user to appreciate the richness of the Linux and free software community, and the flexibility of free software. This is only possible when the tool is designed to reflect and transmit the will of the user, and leave the possibilities open as to the final form of the raw materials (the source code.) If the tool forces the user to do things a particular way, then the tool is working against, rather than for, the user. We have all experienced situations where tools seem to be imposing their respective wills on us. This is backwards, and contrary to the Gentoo philosophy.

Put another way, the Gentoo philosophy is to create better tools. When a tool is doing its job perfectly, you might not even be very aware of its presence, because it does not interfere and make its presence known, nor does it force you to interact with it when you don't want it to. The tool serves the user rather than the user serving the tool.
Every user has work they need to do. The goal of Gentoo is to design tools and systems that allow a user to do that work as pleasantly and efficiently as possible, as they see fit. Our tools should be a joy to use, and should help the user to appreciate the richness of the Linux and free software community, and the flexibility of free software. This is only possible when the tool is designed to reflect and transmit the will of the user, and leave the possibilities open as to the final form of the raw materials (the source code.) If the tool forces the user to do things a particular way, then the tool is working against, rather than for, the user. We have all experienced situations where tools seem to be imposing their respective wills on us. This is backwards, and contrary to the Gentoo philosophy.

Put another way, the Gentoo philosophy is to create better tools. When a tool is doing its job perfectly, you might not even be very aware of its presence, because it does not interfere and make its presence known, nor does it force you to interact with it when you don't want it to. The tool serves the user rather than the user serving the tool.

The goal of Gentoo is to strive to create near-ideal tools. Tools that can accommodate the needs of many different users all with divergent goals. Don't you love it when you find a tool that does exactly what you want to do? Doesn't it feel great? Our mission is to give that sensation to as many people as possible.


The goal of Gentoo is to strive to create near-ideal tools. Tools that can accommodate the needs of many different users all with divergent goals. Don't you love it when you find a tool that does exactly what you want to do? Doesn't it feel great? Our mission is to give that sensation to as many people as possible.

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