kubuntu and kde4

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kubuntu and kde4

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帖子 karron » 2007-03-26 13:39

摘要:
kubuntu将紧密跟进kde的下一代版本kde4,由于kde4的第一个版本预计在今年10月发布,所以我们无法在kubuntu7.10中使用kde4,而kubuntu8.04将是下一个LTS版本,因为这个时候kde4还是第一个发行版本,稳定性和可用性不一定能够满足LTS版本的需要,估计也不会成为kubuntu8.04的default desktop.但是kubuntu也许会发布kde4的包,方便大家使用kde4.

The announcement of a releaseplan for KDE 4 silenced all the previous discussions wether or not the completely new KDE will appear. KDE 4 is based on Qt4 and all applications have to be ported to it. The release of KDE 4.0 is planned for October 2007. kubuntu-de.org held an interview with Jonathan Riddell, project lead of kubuntu about KDE 4 and future kubuntu releases.
q: Jonathan, many kubuntu users seem to be eager to get KDE 4 a soon as possible. Can you give us a look behind the set?''

Jonathan Riddell: At the last Ubuntu Development summit we looked at KDE 4 and made plans for introducting it into the archives. kde4libs and kde4base are now in, the rest are sitting in the NEW queue waiting for an admin to approve them for the archive. Some of the packages have already been rejected because of licence problems (nothing major, just a missing file), so it's good that we are doing this early to get such problem out the way.
You can install these packages alongside the current KDE 3 and run them under KDE 3 or in their own session.
However they're very unstable, and not usable for every day work at all. Also the packages do not currently have any dependencies on them, so you need to install these manually.
q: Kubuntu 6.10 contains packages for KDE 4 for developers. Do you think there will be soon test versions for common users, too?

Jonathan Riddell: Our main focus is to make the tools necessary available to developers. So we have the latest CMake (the new build system for KDE
4) in feisty and coming into backports. We also have the latest strigi and decibel libraries which are now needed by KDE 4.
Users are welcome to try out the packages but I really don't recommend them for use except as a good way to find bugs and start fixing them.
q: Recently, there were reports in the press that sounded like the publication or discussion of milestones for a release plan. When do you
estimate KDE 4 might be released?
Jonathan Riddell: Previously I had hoped for last October which would be KDE's 10th birthday. I was obviously well off, so maybe I should guess a release around our 11th birthday :)
Even once KDE 4 is released we will still have KDE 3 around for a while until all the applications are ported. We've started the porting already for Kubuntu with Ubiquity and other apps now using Qt 4 but many apps such as Adept and Guidance depend on KDE functionality so it is not possible to port them until KDE 4 becomes more stable.
q: When KDE 4 will be released, which Kubuntu would likely contain it, 7.10 or rather 8.04?
Jonathan Riddell: I suspect KDE 4 won't be stable enough to be default desktop for 7.10. 8.04 it should be but it's possible that 8.04 will be our next LTS release and I don't want our first KDE 4 as default release to also be an LTS release. Either way we'll have packages and ISOs of KDE 4 available as soon as sanely possible for everyone to try.
Thank you for the Interview
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帖子 gegfried » 2007-03-26 17:30

看来今年是用不上了kde4了,不过相信kde4的发布会改变人们对linux的认识的。
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帖子 strup » 2007-03-27 19:59

gegfried 写了:看来今年是用不上了kde4了,不过相信kde4的发布会改变人们对linux的认识的。
那要看gnome的速度咯
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帖子 gegfried » 2007-03-28 11:25

gnome3连影子还没有呢,感觉上gnome在故步自封,宣称gnome是要超越mac os x的界面,如果mac os x的界面是这样的话买苹果的可以一头撞死了,简洁也不能变成简陋吧,gnome的默认界面总体上还停留在win98的时代,ubuntu和fedora似乎力挺gnome,但是美工上还是没有质的改进。桌面系统首选还是kde阿。
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#5

帖子 Thinkscape » 2007-03-28 17:52

这个KDE4要做好一点,现在看来有很多改进。
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帖子 mylove » 2007-03-29 19:17

我认为电脑操作方式只有两种,一种是字符,一种是gui,字符的最高境界就是全字符操作,gui的最高境界就是全gui操作
linux是字符之王,windows是gui领域绝对的NO.1
gnome还在追赶windows98,kde正在超越windowsXP,如果加上3D,kde丝毫不逊于vista
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帖子 karron » 2007-03-29 19:43

你说windows是gui的no1,估计mac用户都不会接受了。
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帖子 gegfried » 2007-03-29 20:02

希望kde4的界面有大的改进,至少图标系统现在看上去很美。
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帖子 mylove » 2007-03-29 23:09

karron 写了:你说windows是gui的no1,估计mac用户都不会接受了。
gui不单单指界面美观,微软已经把gui当成人体工程来做了,许多细节不是搞懂编程的人能做得出来的,除了微软还有谁请得起跟编程无关的人来做系统呢?linux在gui方面也只能借鉴了,没有哪个发行版本有能耐去请编程行外的人去搞那些东东,拿来主义也是正确的
mac比windows还封闭,从软件到硬件都是封闭的,好像它那个音乐网站的音乐也是只有itune才能播放的,mac到底想干什么?
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帖子 gegfried » 2007-03-30 20:13

楼上的小瞧了开源社区的能力了,尤其是kde维护团队和社区的牛人的能力,至少我知道kde的美工一点都不比mac逊色,至于windows,只不过是苹果的抄袭而已。
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帖子 houdini » 2007-04-01 12:38

mylove 写了:
karron 写了:你说windows是gui的no1,估计mac用户都不会接受了。
gui不单单指界面美观,微软已经把gui当成人体工程来做了,许多细节不是搞懂编程的人能做得出来的,除了微软还有谁请得起跟编程无关的人来做系统呢?linux在gui方面也只能借鉴了,没有哪个发行版本有能耐去请编程行外的人去搞那些东东,拿来主义也是正确的
mac比windows还封闭,从软件到硬件都是封闭的,好像它那个音乐网站的音乐也是只有itune才能播放的,mac到底想干什么?
我认为mac在美国市场占有率高有很大部分是文化的因素在起作用,可定制性和兼容性不是mac的强项。

就目前披露的信息来看,KDE4会把Gnome远远抛在身后,考虑到这是在Gnome得到极大支持的情况下取得的,尤其应该向KDE社区的开发者们致敬,他们非常了不起。
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#12

帖子 tsingming » 2007-04-01 14:00

个人感觉,kde比xp耐看
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帖子 applnk » 2007-04-03 12:00

tsingming 写了:个人感觉,kde比xp耐看
同感!
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#14

帖子 xybds » 2007-04-06 18:14

只要kde稳定些,我也不会去用gnome :oops:
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#15

帖子 crasy0626 » 2007-04-09 21:08

支持KDE……

不过现在Koffice对中文的支持还是差了一点,不知道KDE4里面的会怎样
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