我硬盘装UB装了几次了,分区后讲什么EXT3文件无法安装在分区上了.还有每次进XP都进不到,讲什么,BOOT....这是为什么啊?
版本是ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso
[问题]我晕啊,来帮下我
版面规则
我们都知道新人的确很菜，也喜欢抱怨，并且带有浓厚的Windows习惯，但既然在这里询问，我们就应该有责任帮助他们解决问题，而不是直接泼冷水、简单的否定或发表对解决问题没有任何帮助的帖子。乐于分享，以人为本，这正是Ubuntu的精神所在。
我们都知道新人的确很菜，也喜欢抱怨，并且带有浓厚的Windows习惯，但既然在这里询问，我们就应该有责任帮助他们解决问题，而不是直接泼冷水、简单的否定或发表对解决问题没有任何帮助的帖子。乐于分享，以人为本，这正是Ubuntu的精神所在。
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https://wiki.ubuntu.com/install.exe/Prototype
新的live cd 的硬盘安装方式，由gnix_oag提供线索。
向导安装：
可以直接在xp上如同安装windows应用软件一样安装ubuntu,很不错的创意，有了这个东东，ubuntu光盘成为历史了。
手动安装，和gnix_oag发布的方法相似
新的live cd 的硬盘安装方式，由gnix_oag提供线索。
向导安装：
可以直接在xp上如同安装windows应用软件一样安装ubuntu,很不错的创意，有了这个东东，ubuntu光盘成为历史了。
手动安装，和gnix_oag发布的方法相似
no security measure is worth anything if an attacker has physical access to the machine
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可能有些教育网用户上海外网不方便，把硬盘live cd 向导安装帖过来一下。
下面的内容是对这种创意征集意见最后敲定方案，应该是这个项目的 evt
THIS THREAD HAS BEEN MOVED TO http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=338279 POST ALL REPLIES THERE
A PROTOTYPE IS NOW AVAILABLE! SEE https://wiki.ubuntu.com/install.exe/Prototype FOR DOWNLOADING AND INSTALLATION INSTRUCTIONS!
A major barrier for entry into the ubuntu world is the installation process. Not too many people know how to burn an iso, set the BIOS to boot from a cd, and format a hard drive, and few are patient enough to read documentation how to figure out how to do so, so they just give up on ubuntu. A way to fix this problem is to let people download ubuntu in the form of a setup.exe installer, which will install ubuntu in a loopmounted partition, as a file in the ntfs partition, and install a bootloader which will allow booting from ubuntu or windows, like topologilinux http://www.topologilinux.com/ does. Think of what this would mean:
1. Much simpler installation: just download setup.exe, double click, next-next-next, reboot, welcome to ubuntu.
2. No need to partition; no chance of data loss.
3. No need to burn a cd for those with no cd writers, or no spare cds.
4. No need to reboot into the live cd to install; just download and install in windows.
5. Lowered risk of someone doing something wrong; no chance of screwup while burning the iso, booting from the cd, or partitioning.
6. Quicker installation; it'll be getting the installation files from the hard drive, not from the cd.
7. It'll have much better performance than a live cd, and will be nearly as fast as a standard installation, so it'll be a much more realistic performance preview.
8. We could even include an "uninstall ubuntu" option that will restore the original windows bootloader and remove the loopmounted file to reassure those people who are scared that ubuntu will destroy their system irreparably.
9 (maybe). We might even allow people to upgrade to a full-blown ubuntu on a dedicated partition if they want to get rid of windows and get a performance boost by shrinking the ntfs partition, cloning the loopmounted file into a real filesystem in the new space freed up, then deleting the ntfs filesystem, expanding the new ubuntu one to take up the freed space, and modifying the bootloader to boot from the new ubuntu filesystem.
/*10 (removed because of criticism). We might even detect what browser and email client is being used in windows and import the mail, addressbook, and cookies into ubuntu to make the migration easier.*/
/*11 (removed because of criticism). We might even use windows to detect the hardware and apt-get install the necessary drivers automatically during installation so there will be no hardware issues later.*/
For those of you who say this can't be done: Topologilinux managed to do the loopmounted installation and dual-booting on an ntfs drive; we could nab some code from them. /*(removed because of criticism) Firefox and Thunderbird already have the ability to import from IE and Outlook Express, so we could use that for the migration.*/
For those of you who say that this isn't going to be useful for people, think of all the people it will open ubuntu up to; plenty of average computer users know how to download a file and double-click through an installer, but few know how to burn an iso, set the BIOS to boot from a cd, and format a hard drive. This way, we will expand our target audience to the average home users who want a better desktop experience, instead of ultra-nerds and their friend who they convert.
For those of you who think this will divert resources from the ubuntu team: the ubuntu team probably isn't going to be working on this; it'll probably be done by some third-party people who know how to code windows installers, then it might later be accepted by the official ubuntu community. Also, it shouldn't be too hard, as topologilinux already has done most of the work; we only have to adapt their work to ubuntu and polish it.
For those of you who think this will make people dependent on windows: if they can't install ubuntu, they will be using windows. It's better to have people dual-booting ubuntu than having them not use it at all. Also, if point 9 is possible to do, we could have this be a nice, step-by-step migration to ubuntu; get them used to ubuntu while having it in a loopmounted partition, then once they're ready, let them get rid of windows and give ubuntu its own dedicated partition. Besides, the live and alternate install cds will still be available for people who want to install ubuntu the normal way; this will just open up more options.
This will NOT run ubuntu witihn windows, like vmware, andLinux, or colinux does. It just aims to make the installation of standard, directly bootable ubuntu easier.
Further information at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/install.exe https://blueprints.launchpad.net/dis...dows-installer https://launchpad.net/setup-ubuntu/
So, is this a good idea? Vote on the poll, and ask developers!
下面内容是对做成的软体的一个简明功能介绍
We have a development version of a Windows based installer for Ubuntu which is designed to be:
* very simple to use
* provide a no-risk installation
* no repartitioning the hard disk
* no changing the windows boot loader
* Easy uninstallation.
* Low risk
* Doesn't use a virtual machine
* Doesn't significantly reduce performance of the resulting installation
* Resulting installation supports everything a normal install does.
* Fast install
*************************
NOTE THAT THE VERSION BELOW HAS LOTS OF BUGS AT THE MOMENT, AND WE RECCOMEND YOU WAIT UNTIL THE NEXT VERSION BEFORE TRYING IT OUT
Currently there is a prototype of the installer. see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/install.exe/Prototype for download and install instructions.
See HERE for troubleshooting suggestions. Note that the developers are busy working on the next version, and most likely will not be here to give support for the current release.
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The aim of this installer is to provide an easier way for a Windows user to install Ubuntu without having to know how to burn a cd iso, set the bios to boot from cd, repartition the disks, set up a multiboot system, etc. It will not replace any of the current Ubuntu installation options, and will not require that windows is installed prior to the installation of Ubuntu.
The installer works by creating a disk image of a pre-installed ubuntu system on the hard disk (downloaded with a bittorrent downloader integrated into the installer, or a standard http download when we find mirrors), and then installing GRUB for windows, which can be chain loaded by the existing boot loader, and which then loads the linux kerner and initrd from the ntfs partition. The initrd is modified to support mounting the image file mentioned above as a root file system, and then continuing the boot process like a normal installation.
This does not use a virtual machine to run linux on, so the performance of the resulting system will be similar to the performance of any other linux installation. The system will use ext3 in the image file, so users will get all the benefits of a linux filesystem.
Current progress
A prototype has been made (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/install.exe/Prototype) which works (WITH LOTS OF UNRESOLVED BUGS), however there are still a few unresolved issues:
GUI Installer:
* UPNP
* Advanced/Expert install
* Langage support
* slideshow during install
* Disk space checks required
* Support for installing on a secondary drive
* Supporting installation of boot loader where the boot drive isn't c:\
First boot:
* Importing settings from config.ini file
For more details, refer to the following links:
Launchpad entry here: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubu...dows-installer
Specification here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/install.exe
Comments here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/install.exe/Comments
Prototype here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/install.exe/Prototype
下面的内容是对这种创意征集意见最后敲定方案，应该是这个项目的 evt
THIS THREAD HAS BEEN MOVED TO http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=338279 POST ALL REPLIES THERE
A PROTOTYPE IS NOW AVAILABLE! SEE https://wiki.ubuntu.com/install.exe/Prototype FOR DOWNLOADING AND INSTALLATION INSTRUCTIONS!
A major barrier for entry into the ubuntu world is the installation process. Not too many people know how to burn an iso, set the BIOS to boot from a cd, and format a hard drive, and few are patient enough to read documentation how to figure out how to do so, so they just give up on ubuntu. A way to fix this problem is to let people download ubuntu in the form of a setup.exe installer, which will install ubuntu in a loopmounted partition, as a file in the ntfs partition, and install a bootloader which will allow booting from ubuntu or windows, like topologilinux http://www.topologilinux.com/ does. Think of what this would mean:
1. Much simpler installation: just download setup.exe, double click, next-next-next, reboot, welcome to ubuntu.
2. No need to partition; no chance of data loss.
3. No need to burn a cd for those with no cd writers, or no spare cds.
4. No need to reboot into the live cd to install; just download and install in windows.
5. Lowered risk of someone doing something wrong; no chance of screwup while burning the iso, booting from the cd, or partitioning.
6. Quicker installation; it'll be getting the installation files from the hard drive, not from the cd.
7. It'll have much better performance than a live cd, and will be nearly as fast as a standard installation, so it'll be a much more realistic performance preview.
8. We could even include an "uninstall ubuntu" option that will restore the original windows bootloader and remove the loopmounted file to reassure those people who are scared that ubuntu will destroy their system irreparably.
9 (maybe). We might even allow people to upgrade to a full-blown ubuntu on a dedicated partition if they want to get rid of windows and get a performance boost by shrinking the ntfs partition, cloning the loopmounted file into a real filesystem in the new space freed up, then deleting the ntfs filesystem, expanding the new ubuntu one to take up the freed space, and modifying the bootloader to boot from the new ubuntu filesystem.
/*10 (removed because of criticism). We might even detect what browser and email client is being used in windows and import the mail, addressbook, and cookies into ubuntu to make the migration easier.*/
/*11 (removed because of criticism). We might even use windows to detect the hardware and apt-get install the necessary drivers automatically during installation so there will be no hardware issues later.*/
For those of you who say this can't be done: Topologilinux managed to do the loopmounted installation and dual-booting on an ntfs drive; we could nab some code from them. /*(removed because of criticism) Firefox and Thunderbird already have the ability to import from IE and Outlook Express, so we could use that for the migration.*/
For those of you who say that this isn't going to be useful for people, think of all the people it will open ubuntu up to; plenty of average computer users know how to download a file and double-click through an installer, but few know how to burn an iso, set the BIOS to boot from a cd, and format a hard drive. This way, we will expand our target audience to the average home users who want a better desktop experience, instead of ultra-nerds and their friend who they convert.
For those of you who think this will divert resources from the ubuntu team: the ubuntu team probably isn't going to be working on this; it'll probably be done by some third-party people who know how to code windows installers, then it might later be accepted by the official ubuntu community. Also, it shouldn't be too hard, as topologilinux already has done most of the work; we only have to adapt their work to ubuntu and polish it.
For those of you who think this will make people dependent on windows: if they can't install ubuntu, they will be using windows. It's better to have people dual-booting ubuntu than having them not use it at all. Also, if point 9 is possible to do, we could have this be a nice, step-by-step migration to ubuntu; get them used to ubuntu while having it in a loopmounted partition, then once they're ready, let them get rid of windows and give ubuntu its own dedicated partition. Besides, the live and alternate install cds will still be available for people who want to install ubuntu the normal way; this will just open up more options.
This will NOT run ubuntu witihn windows, like vmware, andLinux, or colinux does. It just aims to make the installation of standard, directly bootable ubuntu easier.
Further information at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/install.exe https://blueprints.launchpad.net/dis...dows-installer https://launchpad.net/setup-ubuntu/
So, is this a good idea? Vote on the poll, and ask developers!
下面内容是对做成的软体的一个简明功能介绍
We have a development version of a Windows based installer for Ubuntu which is designed to be:
* very simple to use
* provide a no-risk installation
* no repartitioning the hard disk
* no changing the windows boot loader
* Easy uninstallation.
* Low risk
* Doesn't use a virtual machine
* Doesn't significantly reduce performance of the resulting installation
* Resulting installation supports everything a normal install does.
* Fast install
*************************
NOTE THAT THE VERSION BELOW HAS LOTS OF BUGS AT THE MOMENT, AND WE RECCOMEND YOU WAIT UNTIL THE NEXT VERSION BEFORE TRYING IT OUT
Currently there is a prototype of the installer. see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/install.exe/Prototype for download and install instructions.
See HERE for troubleshooting suggestions. Note that the developers are busy working on the next version, and most likely will not be here to give support for the current release.
*************************
The aim of this installer is to provide an easier way for a Windows user to install Ubuntu without having to know how to burn a cd iso, set the bios to boot from cd, repartition the disks, set up a multiboot system, etc. It will not replace any of the current Ubuntu installation options, and will not require that windows is installed prior to the installation of Ubuntu.
The installer works by creating a disk image of a pre-installed ubuntu system on the hard disk (downloaded with a bittorrent downloader integrated into the installer, or a standard http download when we find mirrors), and then installing GRUB for windows, which can be chain loaded by the existing boot loader, and which then loads the linux kerner and initrd from the ntfs partition. The initrd is modified to support mounting the image file mentioned above as a root file system, and then continuing the boot process like a normal installation.
This does not use a virtual machine to run linux on, so the performance of the resulting system will be similar to the performance of any other linux installation. The system will use ext3 in the image file, so users will get all the benefits of a linux filesystem.
Current progress
A prototype has been made (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/install.exe/Prototype) which works (WITH LOTS OF UNRESOLVED BUGS), however there are still a few unresolved issues:
GUI Installer:
* UPNP
* Advanced/Expert install
* Langage support
* slideshow during install
* Disk space checks required
* Support for installing on a secondary drive
* Supporting installation of boot loader where the boot drive isn't c:\
First boot:
* Importing settings from config.ini file
For more details, refer to the following links:
Launchpad entry here: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubu...dows-installer
Specification here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/install.exe
Comments here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/install.exe/Comments
Prototype here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/install.exe/Prototype
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no security measure is worth anything if an attacker has physical access to the machine
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