惊人的消息:ubuntu要与linspire合作，ubuntu将提供CNR服务！

[jianliang79]

http://desktoplinux.com/news/NS7103672739.html

早就听说CNR服务很有名气，一直没用过，这回有望在ubuntu7.04体验一把了。

[zhuqin_83]

CNR=click n run

[eexpress]

这个有什么好处呢？
python的软件还有0install呢。

[jianliang79]

这个有什么好处呢？
python的软件还有0install呢。

看看这段吧：

How is CNR different from apt-get and other methods of installing software on Ubuntu?

CNR is different from most other software management system in many ways:

* One-click graphical install and uninstall of thousands of programs.
* Automatic update notification and one-click updating of OS components and software applications.
* Program and services management.
* One-click access to proprietary codecs, drivers and software.
* Allows you to buy dozens of different commercial programs, such as DVD Player, StarOffice, games, accounting programs, Win4Lin, Crossover Office, Cedega, etc.
* Menu entries and desktop icons (optionally) are automatically added when installing and removed when uninstalling.
* "Charts" to easily find the most popular software programs by category.
* Search feature to easily find software programs by name, category, keywords, similar programs, author, etc.
* Clear, easy-to-understand product pages, including:
o Screenshots of programs
o User reviews of the programs
o Description, versions, specs, file size, source, etc.
o User support and help by program
o Release Notes
o Screenshots
* "Aisles" to group applications together for one-click install of multiple applications.
* Dedicated, high-speed server farms with huge bandwidth pipes for fast downloads.
* Friendly naming shown alongside normal package name.
* "Voting Booth" where users help prioritize new software to be added or updated.
* Automated, on-line Publisher Program where anyone can submit software to be QA-ed and tested for inclusion in the CNR Warehouse.
* Automatically retries and fixes any problem downloads.
* CNR has a better than 98% success rate. (The < 2% failures are usually a result of modem dropoffs, in which case CNR will can automatically resume when connected, providing the user with a successful install.)
* Many of the most popular applications are enhanced and improved before adding them to the CNR Warehouse.
* Products and services which are found exclusively in the CNR Warehouse.
* Tracks problem packages on the server automatically, 24/7, and immediately hides the product from CNR users and instantly notifies the maintainer when a problem occurs.
* Easy, one-click access to a program's source code.
* User profiles based upon machine for managing multiple machines per user.
* Local or networked software repository for quick install of same programs on multiple computers on the same network or from a CD.

[eexpress]

基本意思知道点的。只是概念炒作。从苹果的商业模式过来的。lz认为有很大的意义？

[雕啸长空]

就算成为现实也未必是好事，充其量在ubuntu下安装软件,系统管理什么的都变得和windows下一样点点鼠标，但也容易让更多人丧失适应能力，变成除了ubuntu之外的发行版都用不来，就像刚从windows跳到linux上一样。
必竟linux发行版众多，很难保证所接触到的都是ubuntu.

[jianliang79]

基本意思知道点的。只是概念炒作。从苹果的商业模式过来的。lz认为有很大的意义？

我觉得凡是让linux使用更方便的东西都有意义。就好比说很少有苹果的用户知道mac osx的内核是mach与BSD的混合体，使用quartz作为图形API，但用户知道的就是苹果机很酷，所以就喜欢用。我觉得linux也需要酷一点。

[雕啸长空]

基本意思知道点的。只是概念炒作。从苹果的商业模式过来的。lz认为有很大的意义？

我觉得凡是让linux使用更方便的东西都有意义。就好比说很少有苹果的用户知道mac osx的内核是mach与BSD的混合体，使用quartz作为图形API，但用户知道的就是苹果机很酷，所以就喜欢用。我觉得linux也需要酷一点。

但apple从来就不是属于普通民众的东西，
而且这不是让linux使用方便，只是让ubuntu使用方便，除非所有linux发行版都采纳这种方法，不然负面影响难免.

[jarlyyn]

这个有什么好处呢？
python的软件还有0install呢。

看看这段吧：

How is CNR different from apt-get and other methods of installing software on Ubuntu?

CNR is different from most other software management system in many ways:

* One-click graphical install and uninstall of thousands of programs.
* Automatic update notification and one-click updating of OS components and software applications.
* Program and services management.
* One-click access to proprietary codecs, drivers and software.
* Allows you to buy dozens of different commercial programs, such as DVD Player, StarOffice, games, accounting programs, Win4Lin, Crossover Office, Cedega, etc.
* Menu entries and desktop icons (optionally) are automatically added when installing and removed when uninstalling.
* "Charts" to easily find the most popular software programs by category.
* Search feature to easily find software programs by name, category, keywords, similar programs, author, etc.
* Clear, easy-to-understand product pages, including:
o Screenshots of programs
o User reviews of the programs
o Description, versions, specs, file size, source, etc.
o User support and help by program
o Release Notes
o Screenshots
* "Aisles" to group applications together for one-click install of multiple applications.
* Dedicated, high-speed server farms with huge bandwidth pipes for fast downloads.
* Friendly naming shown alongside normal package name.
* "Voting Booth" where users help prioritize new software to be added or updated.
* Automated, on-line Publisher Program where anyone can submit software to be QA-ed and tested for inclusion in the CNR Warehouse.
* Automatically retries and fixes any problem downloads.
* CNR has a better than 98% success rate. (The < 2% failures are usually a result of modem dropoffs, in which case CNR will can automatically resume when connected, providing the user with a successful install.)
* Many of the most popular applications are enhanced and improved before adding them to the CNR Warehouse.
* Products and services which are found exclusively in the CNR Warehouse.
* Tracks problem packages on the server automatically, 24/7, and immediately hides the product from CNR users and instantly notifies the maintainer when a problem occurs.
* Easy, one-click access to a program's source code.
* User profiles based upon machine for managing multiple machines per user.
* Local or networked software repository for quick install of same programs on multiple computers on the same network or from a CD.

这些大部分deb系统也能实现的吧

[jianliang79]

基本意思知道点的。只是概念炒作。从苹果的商业模式过来的。lz认为有很大的意义？

我觉得凡是让linux使用更方便的东西都有意义。就好比说很少有苹果的用户知道mac osx的内核是mach与BSD的混合体，使用quartz作为图形API，但用户知道的就是苹果机很酷，所以就喜欢用。我觉得linux也需要酷一点。

但apple从来就不是属于普通民众的东西

那你觉得linux就属于普通民众了？我这里“普通民众“就是指你家隔壁的大叔大婶，不是指学生或fans。如果linux不“傻瓜化”一点的话，根本不可能被“普通民众“接受。

[zhuqin_83]

说点题外的，最近有好事者做了一个测试，结果发现用apple的普遍iq要比其他pc使用者的低。
apple带来了方便，也带来了不求甚解。
我（就是我本人）没发现有那个用mac的对系统或者硬件有太多的了解。他们给我的回答是，与其花时间自己弄，还不如打客服，自己万一弄坏了怎么办？

[雕啸长空]

基本意思知道点的。只是概念炒作。从苹果的商业模式过来的。lz认为有很大的意义？

我觉得凡是让linux使用更方便的东西都有意义。就好比说很少有苹果的用户知道mac osx的内核是mach与BSD的混合体，使用quartz作为图形API，但用户知道的就是苹果机很酷，所以就喜欢用。我觉得linux也需要酷一点。

但apple从来就不是属于普通民众的东西

那你觉得linux就属于普通民众了？我这里“普通民众“就是指你家隔壁的大叔大婶，不是指学生或fans。如果linux不“傻瓜化”一点的话，根本不可能被“普通民众“接受。

关于linux的目标使用对像，我不用再说什么东西。

[zhuqin_83]

不过，CNR也就仅仅是改善了包的下载、安装和管理方式而已，所谓的一键式，和deb包的双击有多大区别么？那你有对deb包有多大的要求？我想喜欢ubuntu或者debian的都是看中了deb包的安装方式。
别把问题想的太复杂。原本好好的东西，提升到某些高度就不那么好玩了。
除了安装软件之外，硬件的兼容性应该也会改善。何乐而不为呢？
linux不是为了炫耀自己能折腾，而是拿来用的。没有人阻止你用编译源代码的方式安装。
有多少人学windows是为了了解os的操作方式？所谓的老鸟也不过是在跌爬滚打中摸索积累出了一些经验的一些喜欢折腾或被迫折腾的人。
任何事物搞的越复杂，接受度就越低。
像CNR这种方式，确实对推广和发展linux有帮助。
人家会说，怎么比windows方便多得多，软件还不用满世界的找，自己直接下来了还帮我安装配置好了。想必到那时，windows若是不学上进，恐怕日子会比较难过。
总之，与其花时间在安装软件这上面，还不如好好研究软件如何使用的，从中你必然会学到一点linux的基本知识。想更深入了解的话，比windows要容易的多。
套用一句广告词：用的好，才是真的好。

[eexpress]

zhuqin_83都说道IQ上面去了啊。

你家伙到底是几点睡觉的呢？别不睡觉影响了什么IQ哦。这个问题我一直没搞清楚。

[zhuqin_83]

谢谢首长关心，最近玩7.04比较疯。
IQ一定没问题。