总结一下Arch的优点，推荐Arch搭配KDE！

[tenzu]

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顺便围观14楼

[xhy]

代码： 全选

Package: gnome-core
Priority: optional
Section: universe/gnome
Installed-Size: 44
Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers <ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com>
Original-Maintainer: Debian GNOME Maintainers <pkg-gnome-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Architecture: all
Source: meta-gnome2
Version: 1:2.22.2~4ubuntu8
Depends: gnome-control-center (>= 1:2.22.2.1), eog (>= 2.22.2), gedit (>= 2.22.3), gnome-applets (>= 2.22.2), gnome-icon-theme (>= 2.22.0), gnome-menus (>= 2.22.2), gnome-panel (>= 2.20.3), gnome-session (>= 2.22.2), gnome-settings-daemon (>= 2.22.2.1), gnome-terminal (>= 2.22.2), metacity (>= 1:2.22.0) | compiz-gnome, nautilus (>= 2.20.0), rarian-compat | scrollkeeper, yelp (>= 2.22.1)
Suggests: gnome-desktop-environment
Filename: pool/universe/m/meta-gnome2/gnome-core_2.22.2~4ubuntu8_all.deb
Size: 15176
MD5sum: a92e4fc64d8d534136eca8b056ba12b3
SHA1: 22e76e6eb6473fbbbbafcb8f10d3a31923f484b2
SHA256: da36891cb3093876540ab911fff90d97f7f7d9bd349c6653ef73e42b954b1f82
Description: The GNOME Desktop Environment -- essential components
 These are the core components of the GNOME Desktop environment, an
 intuitive and attractive desktop.
 .
 This package depends on a basic set of programs, including a file
 manager, an image viewer, a text editor and other basic tools.
Bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug
Origin: Ubuntu

gnome-core是用apt安装的，可以先安装个server版，不带gui，然后喜欢什么gui另外加。
server版内核配置参数跟generic不一样，不太适合desktop使用，换成desktop版内核即可。

[Loaden]

各位，我尝试一下Ubuntu alternate 9.10 安装KDE！

[xhy]

软件名字是不用记忆的，source /etc/bash_completion后，
apt-get install 然后输入前1到2个字母，再按TAB，就能自动补全名字，
如果以这个前缀的名字很多，会显示一个列表，继续输入。

搜索可以用apt-cache，很方便。

[wan.l]

软件名字是不用记忆的，source /etc/bash_completion后，
apt-get install 然后输入前1到2个字母，再按TAB，就能自动补全名字，
如果以这个前缀的名字很多，会显示一个列表，继续输入。

搜索可以用apt-cache，很方便。

以前也以为要记软件名，心想能记住的都是神了，现在才知道这样。。。

[Loaden]

软件名字是不用记忆的，source /etc/bash_completion后，
apt-get install 然后输入前1到2个字母，再按TAB，就能自动补全名字，
如果以这个前缀的名字很多，会显示一个列表，继续输入。

搜索可以用apt-cache，很方便。

我下载完Ubuntu的ISO了，准备在虚拟机下先测试一下。
多谢指点。

source /etc/bash_completion怎么用？
能否具体些。我知道bash可以补全，但将软件名补全，还是头一次听说。

[Loaden]

测试过了，9.10的光盘ISO里没有，但源里有的。加了163的源，就可以安装gnome-core了。

[Loaden]

163的源速度真叫快！
在虚拟机里都能达到400KB/s

deb http://mirrors.163.com/ubuntu/ intrepid main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://mirrors.163.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-security main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://mirrors.163.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-updates main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://mirrors.163.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-proposed main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://mirrors.163.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-backports main restricted universe multiverse
deb-src http://mirrors.163.com/ubuntu/ intrepid main restricted universe multiverse
deb-src http://mirrors.163.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-security main restricted universe multiverse
deb-src http://mirrors.163.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-updates main restricted universe multiverse
deb-src http://mirrors.163.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-proposed main restricted universe multiverse
deb-src http://mirrors.163.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-backports main restricted universe multiverse

[Loaden]

唉，要装KDE里，那一串串的依赖，让人无语了。
Debian Squeeze也不会这样啊。人家也让痛痛快快的安装kdebase的！
而且，安装基本系统的时候，连openssl都干上了，其他无关系统的包，太多了...
继续Arch！不在真机里装了，删除ISO完事！

补充：
真不好意思，我用错源了！！
换了源，是可以安装kdebase的。

[tenzu]

LZ比较符合那个xxx描述的行为特征

[xhy]

代码： 全选

 sudo apt-get --dry-run install kdebase
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
  dolphin exiv2 kappfinder kde-icons-oxygen kdebase-bin kdebase-data kdebase-runtime kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4
  kdebase-runtime-data kdebase-runtime-data-common kdebase-workspace-libs4+5 kdelibs-bin kdelibs5 kdelibs5-data kdepasswd kfind
  khelpcenter4 konqueror konqueror-nsplugins konsole kwrite libclucene0ldbl libexiv2-5 libknotificationitem1 libkonq5
  libkonq5-templates libkonqsidebarplugin4 liblzma0 libmodplug0c2 libmpcdec3 libplasma3 libqt4-phonon libqt4-svg libqt4-webkit
  libsoprano4 libstreamanalyzer0 libstreams0 libxcb-shape0 libxcb-shm0 libxcb-xv0 libxine1 libxine1-bin libxine1-console
  libxine1-misc-plugins libxine1-x phonon-backend-xine plasma-widget-folderview soprano-daemon
Suggested packages:
  djvulibre-bin konq-plugins gxine xine-ui libxine1-doc libxine-doc libxine1-ffmpeg
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  dolphin exiv2 kappfinder kde-icons-oxygen kdebase kdebase-bin kdebase-data kdebase-runtime kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4
  kdebase-runtime-data kdebase-runtime-data-common kdebase-workspace-libs4+5 kdelibs-bin kdelibs5 kdelibs5-data kdepasswd kfind
  khelpcenter4 konqueror konqueror-nsplugins konsole kwrite libclucene0ldbl libexiv2-5 libknotificationitem1 libkonq5
  libkonq5-templates libkonqsidebarplugin4 liblzma0 libmodplug0c2 libmpcdec3 libplasma3 libqt4-phonon libqt4-svg libqt4-webkit
  libsoprano4 libstreamanalyzer0 libstreams0 libxcb-shape0 libxcb-shm0 libxcb-xv0 libxine1 libxine1-bin libxine1-console
  libxine1-misc-plugins libxine1-x phonon-backend-xine plasma-widget-folderview soprano-daemon
0 upgraded, 49 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Inst liblzma0 (4.999.8beta-0ubuntu2 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic)
Inst libqt4-phonon (4.5.3really4.5.2-0ubuntu1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic)
Inst libqt4-svg (4.5.3really4.5.2-0ubuntu1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic)
Inst libclucene0ldbl (0.9.20-3 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic)
Inst soprano-daemon (2.3.1+dfsg.1-1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic) []
Inst libsoprano4 (2.3.1+dfsg.1-1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic)
Inst libexiv2-5 (0.18.2-1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic)
Inst libstreams0 (0.7.0-1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic)
Inst libstreamanalyzer0 (0.7.0-1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic)
Inst kdelibs5-data (4:4.3.5-0ubuntu1~karmic1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic-backports)
Inst kdelibs-bin (4:4.3.5-0ubuntu1~karmic1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic-backports) []
Inst kdelibs5 (4:4.3.5-0ubuntu1~karmic1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic-backports)
Inst libknotificationitem1 (4:4.3.3-0ubuntu1~+karmic1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic-backports)
Inst libqt4-webkit (4.5.3really4.5.2-0ubuntu1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic)
Inst libplasma3 (4:4.3.5-0ubuntu1~karmic1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic-backports)
Inst libmodplug0c2 (1:0.8.7-1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic)
Inst libmpcdec3 (1:1.2.2-2.1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic)
Inst libxine1-bin (1.1.16.3-0ubuntu4 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic)
Inst libxine1-misc-plugins (1.1.16.3-0ubuntu4 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic)
Inst libxcb-shape0 (1.4-1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic)
Inst libxcb-shm0 (1.4-1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic)
Inst libxcb-xv0 (1.4-1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic)
Inst libxine1-x (1.1.16.3-0ubuntu4 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic)
Inst libxine1-console (1.1.16.3-0ubuntu4 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic)
Inst libxine1 (1.1.16.3-0ubuntu4 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic)
Inst kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 (4:4.3.5-0ubuntu1~karmic1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic-backports) []
Inst kdebase-runtime-data-common (4:4.3.5-0ubuntu1~karmic1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic-backports) []
Inst kdebase-runtime-data (4:4.3.5-0ubuntu1~karmic1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic-backports) []
Inst phonon-backend-xine (4:4.3.1-4ubuntu1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic) []
Inst kde-icons-oxygen (4:4.3.5-0ubuntu1~karmic1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic-backports) []
Inst kdebase-runtime (4:4.3.5-0ubuntu1~karmic1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic-backports)
Inst libkonq5-templates (4:4.3.5-0ubuntu1~karmic1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic-backports)
Inst libkonq5 (4:4.3.5-0ubuntu1~karmic1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic-backports)
Inst dolphin (4:4.3.5-0ubuntu1~karmic1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic-backports)
Inst exiv2 (0.18.2-1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic)
Inst kdebase-data (4:4.3.5-0ubuntu1~karmic1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic-backports)
Inst kappfinder (4:4.3.5-0ubuntu1~karmic1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic-backports)
Inst kdebase-bin (4:4.3.5-0ubuntu1~karmic1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic-backports)
Inst kdepasswd (4:4.3.5-0ubuntu1~karmic1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic-backports)
Inst kfind (4:4.3.5-0ubuntu1~karmic1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic-backports)
Inst konqueror-nsplugins (4:4.3.5-0ubuntu1~karmic1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic-backports)
Inst libkonqsidebarplugin4 (4:4.3.5-0ubuntu1~karmic1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic-backports)
Inst konqueror (4:4.3.5-0ubuntu1~karmic1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic-backports)
Inst konsole (4:4.3.5-0ubuntu1~karmic1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic-backports)
Inst kwrite (4:4.3.5-0ubuntu1~karmic1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic-backports)
Inst kdebase-workspace-libs4+5 (4:4.3.5-0ubuntu1~karmic1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic-backports)
Inst plasma-widget-folderview (4:4.3.5-0ubuntu1~karmic1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic-backports)
Inst kdebase (4:4.3.5-0ubuntu1~karmic1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic-backports)
Inst khelpcenter4 (4:4.3.5-0ubuntu1~karmic1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic-backports)
Conf liblzma0 (4.999.8beta-0ubuntu2 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic)
Conf libqt4-phonon (4.5.3really4.5.2-0ubuntu1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic)
Conf libqt4-svg (4.5.3really4.5.2-0ubuntu1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic)
Conf libclucene0ldbl (0.9.20-3 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic)
Conf libsoprano4 (2.3.1+dfsg.1-1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic)
Conf soprano-daemon (2.3.1+dfsg.1-1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic)
Conf libexiv2-5 (0.18.2-1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic)
Conf libstreams0 (0.7.0-1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic)
Conf libstreamanalyzer0 (0.7.0-1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic)
Conf kdelibs5-data (4:4.3.5-0ubuntu1~karmic1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic-backports)
Conf kdelibs5 (4:4.3.5-0ubuntu1~karmic1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic-backports)
Conf kdelibs-bin (4:4.3.5-0ubuntu1~karmic1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic-backports)
Conf libknotificationitem1 (4:4.3.3-0ubuntu1~+karmic1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic-backports)
Conf libqt4-webkit (4.5.3really4.5.2-0ubuntu1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic)
Conf libplasma3 (4:4.3.5-0ubuntu1~karmic1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic-backports)
Conf libmodplug0c2 (1:0.8.7-1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic)
Conf libmpcdec3 (1:1.2.2-2.1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic)
Conf libxine1-bin (1.1.16.3-0ubuntu4 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic)
Conf libxine1-misc-plugins (1.1.16.3-0ubuntu4 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic)
Conf libxcb-shape0 (1.4-1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic)
Conf libxcb-shm0 (1.4-1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic)
Conf libxcb-xv0 (1.4-1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic)
Conf libxine1-x (1.1.16.3-0ubuntu4 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic)
Conf libxine1-console (1.1.16.3-0ubuntu4 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic)
Conf libxine1 (1.1.16.3-0ubuntu4 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic)
Conf kdebase-runtime-data-common (4:4.3.5-0ubuntu1~karmic1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic-backports)
Conf kdebase-runtime-data (4:4.3.5-0ubuntu1~karmic1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic-backports)
Conf phonon-backend-xine (4:4.3.1-4ubuntu1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic)
Conf kde-icons-oxygen (4:4.3.5-0ubuntu1~karmic1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic-backports)
Conf kdebase-runtime (4:4.3.5-0ubuntu1~karmic1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic-backports)
Conf kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 (4:4.3.5-0ubuntu1~karmic1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic-backports)
Conf libkonq5-templates (4:4.3.5-0ubuntu1~karmic1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic-backports)
Conf libkonq5 (4:4.3.5-0ubuntu1~karmic1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic-backports)
Conf dolphin (4:4.3.5-0ubuntu1~karmic1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic-backports)
Conf exiv2 (0.18.2-1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic)
Conf kdebase-data (4:4.3.5-0ubuntu1~karmic1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic-backports)
Conf kappfinder (4:4.3.5-0ubuntu1~karmic1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic-backports)
Conf kdebase-bin (4:4.3.5-0ubuntu1~karmic1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic-backports)
Conf kdepasswd (4:4.3.5-0ubuntu1~karmic1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic-backports)
Conf kfind (4:4.3.5-0ubuntu1~karmic1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic-backports)
Conf konqueror-nsplugins (4:4.3.5-0ubuntu1~karmic1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic-backports)
Conf libkonqsidebarplugin4 (4:4.3.5-0ubuntu1~karmic1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic-backports)
Conf konqueror (4:4.3.5-0ubuntu1~karmic1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic-backports)
Conf konsole (4:4.3.5-0ubuntu1~karmic1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic-backports)
Conf kwrite (4:4.3.5-0ubuntu1~karmic1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic-backports)
Conf kdebase-workspace-libs4+5 (4:4.3.5-0ubuntu1~karmic1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic-backports)
Conf plasma-widget-folderview (4:4.3.5-0ubuntu1~karmic1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic-backports)
Conf kdebase (4:4.3.5-0ubuntu1~karmic1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic-backports)
Conf khelpcenter4 (4:4.3.5-0ubuntu1~karmic1 Ubuntu:9.10/karmic-backports)

1. 不同的源最好不混用，特别是某些cn99类似的源。

2. 安装后第一件事情一定是卸载不需要的软件，或者是update+upgrade。

如有需要，可能还要走一遍dist-upgrade

[greatgarlic]

source /etc/bash_completion怎么用？

这个命令是在你初次安装bash_completion之后不用注销重登陆使自动补全生效.apt的自动补全不用自己配置 apt-get 直接输名字按tab键就行了

lz啊.linux下嘲笑别人之前先让自己脱离小白,真没想到你自定义安装竟然不知道bash-completion

1. 看来你基本上没自定义安装过。
3. Arch库很小么？怀疑你是否用过Arch！
6. 哦，还有哪款软件的音乐播放质量强过amarok？不妨拿出来对比下。

1,gentoo,arch,ubuntu的jeos我都自定义安装过,ubuntu最小安装可不是server,而是jeos

3,arch库确实比其他发行版的要小,不过够用,我没说过不够用.arch的精华在AUR,即使不够用,也有它顶着

6,amarok不过就是张皮而已,人家专注的是音乐管理,后台调用的xine.linux下就那么几种解决方案,gstreamer,xine,我还真没发现这两个哪个音质更好.所以你说让我找更好的,对不起,找不到,不过我能给你找出一堆一模一样的.我不是黑amarok,我也喜欢它,尤其是像我这种几万首歌的收藏,用这个确实爽,可你夸播放器还是还是得有根据的

[xhy]

任何包管理方式都可能遇到软件冲突问题，因为某些软件是不能共存的，
如果A和B软件不能共存，有些人安装了A，有些人安装了B，有些人A和B都没安装，
这三种情况都不会有什么坏事发生，然而第四种人需要同时安装A和B，冲突就来了。
这是简化了的情况，实际使用中，可能会出现非常复杂的依赖问题，甚至是普通手段解决不了的。

[Loaden]

任何包管理方式都可能遇到软件冲突问题，因为某些软件是不能共存的，
如果A和B软件不能共存，有些人安装了A，有些人安装了B，有些人A和B都没安装，
这三种情况都不会有什么坏事发生，然而第四种人需要同时安装A和B，冲突就来了。
这是简化了的情况，实际使用中，可能会出现非常复杂的依赖问题，甚至是普通手段解决不了的。

谢谢！也谢谢其他提醒的朋友！我对Linux，仅满足于安装后可以用，我可没说我厉害。

我是安装基本系统后，在安装kdebase时提示的，所以不太明白这里的A和B都安装的意思？
是指gnome和kde不能共存？不应该啊。

[xhy]

汗啊，还用8.10，赶紧换9.10吧
8.10因为更新了无数包，
所以必须升级到最新的8.10软件状态后才能安装新软件，
否则容易出现依赖问题。

难道说装的是9.10，用的源是8.10?