166#Praadur
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That's an interesting question and this has been a fun thread to read, I must say. This also looks like a good place for a first post too, as I never was much good at introductory threads/posts, I just jump in... but I digress.
Anyway, if the original poster doesn't mind, I'm going to primarily take this as why I chose Linux over Windows.
On the practical side of things, I suppose the biggest draw is the ability to cleanly set a global font (in both Gnome and KDE), something that I've discovered that Windows cannot do (and I put months of research into confirming that). Not only that but there are free accessibility tools available aswell, and for someone like myself who has poor vision, those are a boon.
I suppoe the most important reason though goes beyond that, and is in fact something of a--errr... pseudo-technospiritual reason, for lack of a better term (or any term that would suit).
The symbology of Windows doesn't sit well with me, you see? I consider my computer as an extension of myself in some respects, as it remembers things I cannot, and holds my stories, art, and randomly scribbled ideas. The DRM, licensing, idiot-proofing, proprietary-based software, phoning home, lack of source access, and so on all gives Windows the symbology of the Dragon chained, and that's not a good image.
With Linux, the Dragon soars. The only limitations then are those imposed by what today's hardware is capable of, but aside from that I'm able to do whatever I please. To paraphrase Iron Maiden's The Journeyman: "I know what I want, I do what I want, and no one can take that away.".
That said, one might ask why I use Ubuntu instead of another distro. I won't say that it's because Ubuntu is the best, because I think that trying to figure out the best distro is playing semantics. After a distribution has been customised enough, it inevitably becomes saveur de vous anyway, that's the nature of Linux (and a good thing it is too). What I will explain however are my primary three reasons for originally choosing Ubuntu as opposed to any of the other choices.
i.) Of all the distros I tried, Ubuntu left me with the least amount of frustrating work to do, such as configuring drivers and cleaning up menu structures.
[转帖]为什么你选择 ubuntu 而不是 windows ?
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167#BLTicklemonster
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You know i've been reading through some of the posts here and quite frankly some of the stuff that gets said is just plain absurd, I've been recently toying with the idea of going back to linux and actually using it on my laptop instead of XP due to the Performance issues recently and the just challenge of trying something else but,
When I see people give lists of Benefits of Linux as
" Don't have to spend one hour a week protecting against virus's and spyware "
That really annoys me, I have 3 computers 1 Vista machine and 2 Xp machines and i do Not run Anti Virus or Anti Spyware software and all run perfectly fine, I never get spyware on any of them unless someone else is using my computer.
The other thing that gets to me is the Restart twice a day crap that i've seen on here, lets be serious i run vista on my Machine which is a E6600 2gb of PC8500 Ram and i tell you what lol i run that computer for 6 days every week without a restart.
Now dont get me wrong im not bashing Ubuntu because im downloading it as we speak to run on my laptop but dont lie about the benefits, Yes its free and Yes its different and a challenge but that crap about slowing down and spyware and virus's is terrible, sometimes it just makes me think did people even try to use windows ???
just my say
Absurd to you, maybe, but many people here aren't the only ones who use their computer, keep that in mind. I have a friend who uses XP, and he never has a problem til his son in law "Billy" (he of the bleached streak down the middle of his dyed jet black hair and the huge piercings in his ears and all kinds of - he thinks - really cool looking stuff. Oh, and he thinks he's a computer pro) gets on his computer, then it's virus mania. But I can't talk him into trying Linux, and his son in law (probably the whole reason) thinks Linux is a joke. Oh, and he's (Billy) a Microsoft day camp whiz kid, btw....
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You know i've been reading through some of the posts here and quite frankly some of the stuff that gets said is just plain absurd, I've been recently toying with the idea of going back to linux and actually using it on my laptop instead of XP due to the Performance issues recently and the just challenge of trying something else but,
When I see people give lists of Benefits of Linux as
" Don't have to spend one hour a week protecting against virus's and spyware "
That really annoys me, I have 3 computers 1 Vista machine and 2 Xp machines and i do Not run Anti Virus or Anti Spyware software and all run perfectly fine, I never get spyware on any of them unless someone else is using my computer.
The other thing that gets to me is the Restart twice a day crap that i've seen on here, lets be serious i run vista on my Machine which is a E6600 2gb of PC8500 Ram and i tell you what lol i run that computer for 6 days every week without a restart.
Now dont get me wrong im not bashing Ubuntu because im downloading it as we speak to run on my laptop but dont lie about the benefits, Yes its free and Yes its different and a challenge but that crap about slowing down and spyware and virus's is terrible, sometimes it just makes me think did people even try to use windows ???
just my say
Absurd to you, maybe, but many people here aren't the only ones who use their computer, keep that in mind. I have a friend who uses XP, and he never has a problem til his son in law "Billy" (he of the bleached streak down the middle of his dyed jet black hair and the huge piercings in his ears and all kinds of - he thinks - really cool looking stuff. Oh, and he thinks he's a computer pro) gets on his computer, then it's virus mania. But I can't talk him into trying Linux, and his son in law (probably the whole reason) thinks Linux is a joke. Oh, and he's (Billy) a Microsoft day camp whiz kid, btw....
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168#runningwithscissors
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Because it fits my needs, silly.
I am a developer and find it easier to learn/program on *nix-like systems.
If I were a drooling, you-tube frequenting addict or a counterstrike kiddy, who absolutely "needs" flash support and games, then perhaps I'd think about shelling out for an OS.
因为它适合我的需求，傻瓜
我是个开发人员，我发现在*nix系统上它更易于学习/编程
如果我是个(留着鼻涕的),沉迷于 you-tube , 或者逆反的小孩，那些绝对“"需要" flash支持和游戏的，那也许我会买那个操作系统
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Because it fits my needs, silly.
I am a developer and find it easier to learn/program on *nix-like systems.
If I were a drooling, you-tube frequenting addict or a counterstrike kiddy, who absolutely "needs" flash support and games, then perhaps I'd think about shelling out for an OS.
因为它适合我的需求，傻瓜
我是个开发人员，我发现在*nix系统上它更易于学习/编程
如果我是个(留着鼻涕的),沉迷于 you-tube , 或者逆反的小孩，那些绝对“"需要" flash支持和游戏的，那也许我会买那个操作系统
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169#BLTicklemonster
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Great point. I'd bet the overwhelming majority of the people out there purchasing these outrageous machines would do just fine without Windows.Quote:
Originally Posted by runningwithscissors View Post
Because it fits my needs, silly.
I am a developer and find it easier to learn/program on *nix-like systems.
If I were a drooling, you-tube frequenting addict or a counterstrike kiddy, who absolutely "needs" flash support and games, then perhaps I'd think about shelling out for an OS.
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170#runningwithscissors
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也许，我想windows 是个合理的操作系统 . 就是我觉得我不喜欢支付我不需要的东西，有免费的可选择的更好的提供所有我所需要的软件（的OS）
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Perhaps. I think Windows is a decent OS. Just that I don't really feel like paying for something that I don't need. There are free alternatives available that provide me with pretty much all I need from my software.Quote:
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Great point. I'd bet the overwhelming majority of the people out there purchasing these outrageous machines would do just fine without Windows.
也许，我想windows 是个合理的操作系统 . 就是我觉得我不喜欢支付我不需要的东西，有免费的可选择的更好的提供所有我所需要的软件（的OS）
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171#X40nick
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I got fed up with Windows and the rubbish it brings with it. So I just switched.
I did own a Apple Mac, but I didn't like it so I sold it and got a PC laptop. I have been using Windows since 95 but gave up after XP.
I really enjoy using Linux, and I am planning on buying a cheap laptop so I can just use Linux and no Windows.
我被 windows 和它带的那些垃圾搞烦了，所以我要换
我确实有台 Apple Mac , 但是我不喜欢它，我把它卖了买了一部pc笔记本，我用windows 从95开始，xp 以后我就放弃了
我真的喜欢用 linux , 我打算买一台便宜的笔记本， 那样我就可以只用 linux 没有 windows 了
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I got fed up with Windows and the rubbish it brings with it. So I just switched.
I did own a Apple Mac, but I didn't like it so I sold it and got a PC laptop. I have been using Windows since 95 but gave up after XP.
I really enjoy using Linux, and I am planning on buying a cheap laptop so I can just use Linux and no Windows.
我被 windows 和它带的那些垃圾搞烦了，所以我要换
我确实有台 Apple Mac , 但是我不喜欢它，我把它卖了买了一部pc笔记本，我用windows 从95开始，xp 以后我就放弃了
我真的喜欢用 linux , 我打算买一台便宜的笔记本， 那样我就可以只用 linux 没有 windows 了
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172#dburnett77
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About when I saw that 2 million liines of code were dumped on the I-net before Vista's release. Into the hacker's pool. Microsoft chose not to address this, and hoped for the best.
2 days after Vista's official release, I see there's a security risk in turning on your speakers. As, a hacker may use voice commands to run your system.
Now, since they've had to revamp so much, that MS option of security requires paid subscription, and there's rumor that the first software patch will cost money, somehow someway.
Not to mention, the hardware push is phenomenal. First onboard will be functional. Then dedicated 128MB Graphics. Now, 256MB of a high-level. And, it's still not stable.
Poor coding. Granted, you can throw it on and do something, just don't try and push it. Unless, you like 'tweaking' as they say, and turning off essential functions to 'dance' with your desktop.
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About when I saw that 2 million liines of code were dumped on the I-net before Vista's release. Into the hacker's pool. Microsoft chose not to address this, and hoped for the best.
2 days after Vista's official release, I see there's a security risk in turning on your speakers. As, a hacker may use voice commands to run your system.
Now, since they've had to revamp so much, that MS option of security requires paid subscription, and there's rumor that the first software patch will cost money, somehow someway.
Not to mention, the hardware push is phenomenal. First onboard will be functional. Then dedicated 128MB Graphics. Now, 256MB of a high-level. And, it's still not stable.
Poor coding. Granted, you can throw it on and do something, just don't try and push it. Unless, you like 'tweaking' as they say, and turning off essential functions to 'dance' with your desktop.
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173#cartisdm
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Yeah, I'm going to have to agree with Acidpunk. As linux users I'm almost positive you're an above average computer user. And as an advanced computer user what are you doing getting bogged down with spyware? I wouldn't go as far as to not run an anti-virus software but I certainly wouldn't say that more 1% of my total time on the pc is even close to bothered by spyware/viruses.
And windows is a great system that won't run too slow as long you keep it under control. I must admit that ubuntu does a great job at not bogging down my system even after the tons of things I've added to it
是的，我不得不同意 Acidpunk 的观点，作为linux 用户，我基本上肯定你是比普通用户要"高"一些，那么，作为一个高级计算机用户，你都做了什么，（在陷入spyware麻烦的时候）？ 我不是说我没有反病毒软件，但是我肯定的说，我遭受 spyware困扰的时间甚至不到1% .
windows 是个优秀的操作系统，不会运行的太慢只要你使它在受控（状态），我必须承认ubuntu 做得很出色，没有让我在系统里添加了大量的东西以后变得慢下来
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" Don't have to spend one hour a week protecting against virus's and spyware "
Yeah, I'm going to have to agree with Acidpunk. As linux users I'm almost positive you're an above average computer user. And as an advanced computer user what are you doing getting bogged down with spyware? I wouldn't go as far as to not run an anti-virus software but I certainly wouldn't say that more 1% of my total time on the pc is even close to bothered by spyware/viruses.
And windows is a great system that won't run too slow as long you keep it under control. I must admit that ubuntu does a great job at not bogging down my system even after the tons of things I've added to it
是的，我不得不同意 Acidpunk 的观点，作为linux 用户，我基本上肯定你是比普通用户要"高"一些，那么，作为一个高级计算机用户，你都做了什么，（在陷入spyware麻烦的时候）？ 我不是说我没有反病毒软件，但是我肯定的说，我遭受 spyware困扰的时间甚至不到1% .
windows 是个优秀的操作系统，不会运行的太慢只要你使它在受控（状态），我必须承认ubuntu 做得很出色，没有让我在系统里添加了大量的东西以后变得慢下来
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174#beast2k
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I've pretty much had it up to here with Ubuntu. So I wanna see why other people choose this OS over the functional OS that is Windows. To me it seems if you want Ubuntu to work correctly, you have to tweak a bunch of errors. It's like having a good looking son who doesn't know how to do ****.
So Please. Tell me why you choose Ubuntu. And you can't say compiz or beryl.
For me I got tired of the same old, same old. Windows is boring, it works with all the games and apps but it's still boring you can't do much with it.
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Originally Posted by radlations View Post
I've pretty much had it up to here with Ubuntu. So I wanna see why other people choose this OS over the functional OS that is Windows. To me it seems if you want Ubuntu to work correctly, you have to tweak a bunch of errors. It's like having a good looking son who doesn't know how to do ****.
So Please. Tell me why you choose Ubuntu. And you can't say compiz or beryl.
For me I got tired of the same old, same old. Windows is boring, it works with all the games and apps but it's still boring you can't do much with it.
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175#Roman27
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我完全同意，另外，我感觉你可以用linux 做更多的事情，而不必支付$30 给每个单独的共享软件，那些无论如何，本应该包含在操作系统内部的东西
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I agree completely. Also, I feel that you can do more in Linux without having to fork over $30+ for each individual shareware application that should have been included with the OS anyway.Quote:
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For me I got tired of the same old, same old. Windows is boring, it works with all the games and apps but it's still boring you can't do much with it.
我完全同意，另外，我感觉你可以用linux 做更多的事情，而不必支付$30 给每个单独的共享软件，那些无论如何，本应该包含在操作系统内部的东西
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176#Linuxratty
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I'm really pleased with Linux and i really love it's tweak ability.....
And it's free...
我同意... 另外，他们有足够的钱买整个一个国家，而为什么我还要给他们更多？
我是真的喜欢 linux 我真的爱她可调整的能力 .. 而且她免费
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I agree...Plus,they have enough money to buy an entire country,so why should i give them more?Quote:
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For me I got tired of the same old, same old. Windows is boring, it works with all the games and apps but it's still boring you can't do much with it.
I'm really pleased with Linux and i really love it's tweak ability.....
And it's free...
我同意... 另外，他们有足够的钱买整个一个国家，而为什么我还要给他们更多？
我是真的喜欢 linux 我真的爱她可调整的能力 .. 而且她免费
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177#Master-of-None
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Why did I choose Ubuntu?
为什么我选择 ubuntu ?
I'm still not sure, really. It was different, and I'm into trying new things. For a standard Windows user such as myself, it was a bit harder to understand. It only took me a day or two to get the used to it in a basic sense, and the overall experience I'm having with Ubuntu is much more pleasant than that of Windows ever could deliver for me. Ubuntu never crashes when I'm in the middle of playing around with certain software, such as Blender3D, and it definitly doesn't eat the battery of my laptop as fast as Vista would have.
我还不是很确定，是的，她不同，我喜欢尝试新的东西，作为一个标准windows 用户就象我，理解她有一定难度，基本的使用感觉花了我一两天的时间，对ubuntu 全部的感受相当令人愉快，比原来windows 曾经给予我的，...
All and all, Vista just wasted resources in my opinion. Sure Windows hoards all the games, but I'm not a heavey gamer like I was when I was 12. The free software, including the bunch included, also made it worth it, as well. MS wants you to buy their office software, like I have the money to do that.
All and all, the points I've made goes down to this: Stability, Usability, Reliability, and it didn't eat my cash to have it installed.
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Why did I choose Ubuntu?
为什么我选择 ubuntu ?
I'm still not sure, really. It was different, and I'm into trying new things. For a standard Windows user such as myself, it was a bit harder to understand. It only took me a day or two to get the used to it in a basic sense, and the overall experience I'm having with Ubuntu is much more pleasant than that of Windows ever could deliver for me. Ubuntu never crashes when I'm in the middle of playing around with certain software, such as Blender3D, and it definitly doesn't eat the battery of my laptop as fast as Vista would have.
我还不是很确定，是的，她不同，我喜欢尝试新的东西，作为一个标准windows 用户就象我，理解她有一定难度，基本的使用感觉花了我一两天的时间，对ubuntu 全部的感受相当令人愉快，比原来windows 曾经给予我的，...
All and all, Vista just wasted resources in my opinion. Sure Windows hoards all the games, but I'm not a heavey gamer like I was when I was 12. The free software, including the bunch included, also made it worth it, as well. MS wants you to buy their office software, like I have the money to do that.
All and all, the points I've made goes down to this: Stability, Usability, Reliability, and it didn't eat my cash to have it installed.
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178#Acidpunk's Avatar
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You all make great points to tell the truth and as i said im in the process of downloading Ubuntu.
你们大家都说除了重点，我想说我正在下载 ubuntu
One question though, Right now at the moment im studying for the CCNA exam which aint a big deal its mainly PDf's and practising on paper for stuff but does wine work with Boson Netsim or Routersim ?
有个问题，我现在正在学习，为了 CCNA考试 。。。
and secondly i have a part time Job as a web developer and have a project coming up within two weeks time, Is there an equivilant to Dreamweaver for free or do i have to use wine again ?
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You all make great points to tell the truth and as i said im in the process of downloading Ubuntu.
你们大家都说除了重点，我想说我正在下载 ubuntu
One question though, Right now at the moment im studying for the CCNA exam which aint a big deal its mainly PDf's and practising on paper for stuff but does wine work with Boson Netsim or Routersim ?
有个问题，我现在正在学习，为了 CCNA考试 。。。
and secondly i have a part time Job as a web developer and have a project coming up within two weeks time, Is there an equivilant to Dreamweaver for free or do i have to use wine again ?
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179#cluepon
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Why I switched to Ubuntu?
Easy.
1) Overhead Overhead Overhead. In short, I have reclaimed the use of alot of hardware resources like RAM/CPU. As I really don't need to run AdAware and Norton (two of the biggest RAM Hogs) I am able to put more of my computer to work for ME. Which is how it should be.
2) About the only application I really needed, other than Windows games was Adobe Photoshop. I can run that, with more than acceptable speed inside VirtualBox, in a nice and safely contained environment. Skype works quite well in Ubuntu. And, even on the game score: I mostly use emulators, like zsnes and MAME, both of which have native versions on Ubuntu/Linux. For anything else, I would prefer to support native versions of games than resort to WINE, etc. Lincity, FreeCiv, etc are good alternatives to some of the basic game staples of Windows.
3) Better media management. Amarok is far and away the best music player ever coded. Winamp? iTunes? Meh. Amarok has just about every feature you could ever want or need.
4) Complete control over my environment. In windows, you can only set what Microsoft wants you to set. Yes, you can do some tweaking with TweakUI. Same with MacOS, not enough options to configure things in the UI. Sure, you can go to third party solutions to make tweaks. But, I have no such problems with KDE. I love being able to control minute things, as I need to. This allows me to completely control and use my environment to its fullest. In windows, little annoying problems often had to be tolerated, or settled on, as there was never a direct way of dealing with them.
5) The release cycle. While I wish the release cycle would slow down a bit, (to insure more stability), I am happy that I can count on new releases on a timely and scheduled basis.
6) Better applications for the little things. Tighter integration. Konversation is one of the best IRC Clients ever. Kopete is trillian without the cost. Kate is one of the best text editors ive ever used. And they are all tightly integrated with the desktop. The integration is so good, I am even considering moving away from Firefox and Thunderbird, and moving towards environment standard applications.
7) Stability. Other than kernel updates, I have yet to have a situation where I HAVE to reboot to stabilize the operating system. If things get weird on the desktop, one Ctrl-alt-backspace later, I am back to work. No fuss, no muss. No more time-consuming rebooting to solve the problem of the Operating System going awry.
These reasons are just the ones off the top of my head. Yeah, there's room for improvement in Ubuntu and its variants. But, thats true of any OS. The bottom line is: I can work, without a hassle, consistantly on the platform. I can use more of the resources and hardware under Linux, than I can under Windows.
I would even like to point out, that despite the oft mentioned driver disparity when it comes to certain bits of hardware, drivers often work well enough for your device to make it basically workable. I have a Pinnacle 800i PCTV HD TV input card. The tuner and some of the features do not work yet, but the composite inputs work just fine, which has allowed me to at the very least pipe in my cable and watch TV on my desktop. Says alot about the driver. My card is officially "unsupported", but the driver still works to some degree.
All in all, I am pretty happy with the system. I have Windows where it belongs: contained in virtualBox, where it cannot do me any harm. =)
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Why I switched to Ubuntu?
Easy.
1) Overhead Overhead Overhead. In short, I have reclaimed the use of alot of hardware resources like RAM/CPU. As I really don't need to run AdAware and Norton (two of the biggest RAM Hogs) I am able to put more of my computer to work for ME. Which is how it should be.
2) About the only application I really needed, other than Windows games was Adobe Photoshop. I can run that, with more than acceptable speed inside VirtualBox, in a nice and safely contained environment. Skype works quite well in Ubuntu. And, even on the game score: I mostly use emulators, like zsnes and MAME, both of which have native versions on Ubuntu/Linux. For anything else, I would prefer to support native versions of games than resort to WINE, etc. Lincity, FreeCiv, etc are good alternatives to some of the basic game staples of Windows.
3) Better media management. Amarok is far and away the best music player ever coded. Winamp? iTunes? Meh. Amarok has just about every feature you could ever want or need.
4) Complete control over my environment. In windows, you can only set what Microsoft wants you to set. Yes, you can do some tweaking with TweakUI. Same with MacOS, not enough options to configure things in the UI. Sure, you can go to third party solutions to make tweaks. But, I have no such problems with KDE. I love being able to control minute things, as I need to. This allows me to completely control and use my environment to its fullest. In windows, little annoying problems often had to be tolerated, or settled on, as there was never a direct way of dealing with them.
5) The release cycle. While I wish the release cycle would slow down a bit, (to insure more stability), I am happy that I can count on new releases on a timely and scheduled basis.
6) Better applications for the little things. Tighter integration. Konversation is one of the best IRC Clients ever. Kopete is trillian without the cost. Kate is one of the best text editors ive ever used. And they are all tightly integrated with the desktop. The integration is so good, I am even considering moving away from Firefox and Thunderbird, and moving towards environment standard applications.
7) Stability. Other than kernel updates, I have yet to have a situation where I HAVE to reboot to stabilize the operating system. If things get weird on the desktop, one Ctrl-alt-backspace later, I am back to work. No fuss, no muss. No more time-consuming rebooting to solve the problem of the Operating System going awry.
These reasons are just the ones off the top of my head. Yeah, there's room for improvement in Ubuntu and its variants. But, thats true of any OS. The bottom line is: I can work, without a hassle, consistantly on the platform. I can use more of the resources and hardware under Linux, than I can under Windows.
I would even like to point out, that despite the oft mentioned driver disparity when it comes to certain bits of hardware, drivers often work well enough for your device to make it basically workable. I have a Pinnacle 800i PCTV HD TV input card. The tuner and some of the features do not work yet, but the composite inputs work just fine, which has allowed me to at the very least pipe in my cable and watch TV on my desktop. Says alot about the driver. My card is officially "unsupported", but the driver still works to some degree.
All in all, I am pretty happy with the system. I have Windows where it belongs: contained in virtualBox, where it cannot do me any harm. =)
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180#Irihapeti
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A big issue for me is not having to worry about whether I am classed as a home user or a commercial user because I use my PC in connection with a (very small) business. With commercial software, that can cost hundreds of dollars that I don't have. With FOSS, it's completely irrelevant.
Plus, I find that, for what I do, my system runs so much better on Ubuntu. No, it's not perfect. But then, what system is? It's more than good enough for me, though.
对于我来说，一个大问题是,我不用担心我是否被归类为家庭用户或商业用户，因为我用我的电脑做一些（很小）业务。用商业软件，要花费数百美元，而我没有那么多钱。用开源软件，完全不用理会。
另外我觉得，对于我需要的，我的ubuntu系统运行的是这么好。不，它并非完美, 但是，那个系统是完美的？它对我来说已经超过足够好了
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A big issue for me is not having to worry about whether I am classed as a home user or a commercial user because I use my PC in connection with a (very small) business. With commercial software, that can cost hundreds of dollars that I don't have. With FOSS, it's completely irrelevant.
Plus, I find that, for what I do, my system runs so much better on Ubuntu. No, it's not perfect. But then, what system is? It's more than good enough for me, though.
对于我来说，一个大问题是,我不用担心我是否被归类为家庭用户或商业用户，因为我用我的电脑做一些（很小）业务。用商业软件，要花费数百美元，而我没有那么多钱。用开源软件，完全不用理会。
另外我觉得，对于我需要的，我的ubuntu系统运行的是这么好。不，它并非完美, 但是，那个系统是完美的？它对我来说已经超过足够好了